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you put chrysler in very awkward position. >> i did put chrysler in awkward position, no two ways about it. it is really workers fault. they are the guys that did it. there are a lot of people working in the factory and i'm hearing from the people in the factory right now, majority of people that i have been hearing from that work in the factory are not really thrilled that these guys are coming back. megyn: they gave them all a black eye. >> the people in the factory don't want the guys working in there. megyn: majority of the workers are hard-working people who don't get hammered on the lunch break and go back and build our jeeps. they took a beating as well in the public. i want to talk about whether this is the new state? we've been talking about unions in this program as michigan is now a right-to-work state and this is where this happened, in michigan. i will pick up on that and how this story plays in right after the break. we'll carry you guys over. stay with me. hmm, it says here that cheerios helps lower cholesterol as part of a heart healthy diet. that's true. ...but you stil
you put chrysler in very awkward position. >> i did put chrysler in awkward position, no two ways about it. it is really workers fault. they are the guys that did it. there are a lot of people working in the factory and i'm hearing from the people in the factory right now, majority of people that i have been hearing from that work in the factory are not really thrilled that these guys are coming back. megyn: they gave them all a black eye. >> the people in the factory don't want the...
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as a result of what he found he brought it to chrysler's attention. 13 employees fired following chrysler's investigation. two suspended 30 days. all of them back at work. check this out. roll the tape. >> hey, guys, hate to be a buzz kill, shouldn't you guys building cars? the government spent a lot of money bailing you guys out and you're coming out here on lunch break drinking like this? where are you guys going, man? >> reporter: they got out but didn't essentially get away because they lost their jobs. two years later most are back, reinstated 30 days later. they were drinking out of paper bags and reportedly smoking marijuana. the jefferson north assembly plant in michigan where this was taking place, they were part of the auto industry that received what was collectively millions in taxpayer bailout money, martha. martha: interesting. good reporting. jamie, thank you very much. >> reporter: sure. bill: was that guy driving away in a ford mustang in the story? guilty as charged. see you at lunch today, martha. unions planning, another mass protest tomorrow in the state of michigan. wh
as a result of what he found he brought it to chrysler's attention. 13 employees fired following chrysler's investigation. two suspended 30 days. all of them back at work. check this out. roll the tape. >> hey, guys, hate to be a buzz kill, shouldn't you guys building cars? the government spent a lot of money bailing you guys out and you're coming out here on lunch break drinking like this? where are you guys going, man? >> reporter: they got out but didn't essentially get away...
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meanwhile, president obama will visit a chrysler plant just outside detroit today. remember, a city council woman last week said the city deserves a federal bailout because the city helped reelect the president. >> after the election of jimmy carter, the honorable coleman alexander young, he went to washington d.c., and came back home with some bacon. stuart: well, you heard the rest from there. the lady goes on to say it's a quid pro quo give us the monny because we voted for you. the question, will the president offer any hint of a bailout, bailout help for deeroit today. will he address union anger at michigan's right to work legislation? this goes to the heart of government spending and the position of organized labor in president obama's second term. we're right there in michigan. let's go to facebook. weigh in on what's happening there. will detroit get a bailout and what do you think about the unions? will they win? good questions all. now, one of the worst blowouts in nfl history. seattle seahawks beat arizona cardinals 58-0. the cardinals threw four interce
meanwhile, president obama will visit a chrysler plant just outside detroit today. remember, a city council woman last week said the city deserves a federal bailout because the city helped reelect the president. >> after the election of jimmy carter, the honorable coleman alexander young, he went to washington d.c., and came back home with some bacon. stuart: well, you heard the rest from there. the lady goes on to say it's a quid pro quo give us the monny because we voted for you. the...
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david: now chrysler is an italian car company. the italians, the parent company is going to awful times. quitting because of the sales. is there any possibility. now they are not supposed to do this, but is there any possibility tie-ins will pour some of the profits they're making from chrysler here and use them to pay out the parent company in italy? >> i suppose the possibilities are always there. certainly talking about a global company to the extent you're doing better in one market and then another is always a bit of shifting around. at this point i think north america for all the automakers has really become a strong point. hopefully we can move forward, result in undermining uncertainty and go into a strong 2013 in terms of auto sales. david: the u.s. may be doing well but europe is doing terrible. chief economist, thank you very much, good to see you. it has been a rough year for corporate america with the government fining businesses $1.1 billion in antitrust funds. we have the exclusive details. liz: ever wonder what it
david: now chrysler is an italian car company. the italians, the parent company is going to awful times. quitting because of the sales. is there any possibility. now they are not supposed to do this, but is there any possibility tie-ins will pour some of the profits they're making from chrysler here and use them to pay out the parent company in italy? >> i suppose the possibilities are always there. certainly talking about a global company to the extent you're doing better in one market...
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it is home to united autoworker and it is ford and gm and chrysler and this changes a lot for the people in michigan. >> gretchen: this is a huge epic fight. the idea that michigan is a right to work state. indiana did it 10 months ago as you know. but there is a gop house and i believe the senate is controllled stunningly by republicans and look at this revolt now. this is similar to what we saw in wisconsin . what will happen with the right to work statute. it will eexempt firefighters and police officers and end mandatory dues for public and private unions. >> brian: people have choices to check the box. we'll listen to governor rick snyder of michigan. >> in the unions are strong in michigan and they did a lot of good in terms of work issues . people wanted to join the union. but today we give the workers a choice and give them an opportunity to say do we want to belong to the union. i don't see it antiunion. workers should want to join and be part. it is a worker choice . the second thing it is economic development. we watched what went on in indiana. they have seen a significant in
it is home to united autoworker and it is ford and gm and chrysler and this changes a lot for the people in michigan. >> gretchen: this is a huge epic fight. the idea that michigan is a right to work state. indiana did it 10 months ago as you know. but there is a gop house and i believe the senate is controllled stunningly by republicans and look at this revolt now. this is similar to what we saw in wisconsin . what will happen with the right to work statute. it will eexempt firefighters...
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chrysler said that. not the union. >> sorry, sorry. chrysler said that. so like next time something falls off your chrysler, like your steering wheel cover kind of slips off, now we know why, because you're like sailing -- 30,000 feet up high. knobs always fall off. let's get another nickel bag before i go back to work. ridiculous! >> gretchen: it speaks to the power of the union. it really does. and whatever they had in the language of their contract, the arbitrator sided with them. so they must have this sort of ironclad language. you're a lawyer what, do you think? >> well, i think chrysler is now on the receiving end of what so many others feel in states where unions are really powerful. and so they're now the ones who have to deal with it. as a legal matter, i don't think chrysler is going to be able to challenge this. i think the ruling is going to stand and maybe chrysler will rue the day they were so lax and tolerant of union power. >> steve: speaking of power. powerball, the second guy who won t
chrysler said that. not the union. >> sorry, sorry. chrysler said that. so like next time something falls off your chrysler, like your steering wheel cover kind of slips off, now we know why, because you're like sailing -- 30,000 feet up high. knobs always fall off. let's get another nickel bag before i go back to work. ridiculous! >> gretchen: it speaks to the power of the union. it really does. and whatever they had in the language of their contract, the arbitrator sided with...
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they don't want to have happen to them what happened to general motors or chrysler. yothey make it less profitable r unions. as a result you get more invested and more jobs. jobs are one thing michigan definitely needs. lori: i agree. the unions would argue many of the freedoms, many of the advantages their workers enjoy her because of the lobbies and the history they have had, therefore the unions are deservedly deserve their dues. >> if you can persuade workers to give you their money, that is fantastic, that is your constitutional right. they should not be forced to pay dues to the union. 20% of union households in michigan support the right to work law. probably because there's a awful lot of union workers don't go there again the value worth of their dues or supports priorities. they should have a choice, that is their right. lori: we have seen unions lose membership, lot less clout than in generations past. how do you characterize the influence of unions right now? >> it is a competitive marketplace. up through the late 70s the detroit automakers headlock on th
they don't want to have happen to them what happened to general motors or chrysler. yothey make it less profitable r unions. as a result you get more invested and more jobs. jobs are one thing michigan definitely needs. lori: i agree. the unions would argue many of the freedoms, many of the advantages their workers enjoy her because of the lobbies and the history they have had, therefore the unions are deservedly deserve their dues. >> if you can persuade workers to give you their money,...
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right now, if you work at ford, general motors, chrysler on the line, you've got to be part of the uaw, part of the united auto workers. this would not only affect public sector workers like teachers but those private sector workers like auto workers. three bills passed, two in the senate last night, one in the house. the governor, rick schneider, very supportive of this legislation. it's expected to be taken up here again at the state capitol on tuesday. i want you to take a listen to jeff breslin. then you'll hear from the governor. >> to be pro worker, give freedom of choice to our workplace and that legislators moved promptly and efficiently, moving it through the legislature and when it arrives on my desk, i plan on signing it. >> in the state of michigan we've had a fledgling economy for some time, way down at the bottom of the list in the country. we've just started to make a comeback. bypassing right to work, that's taken that comeback and cutting the legs out from underneath t it's going to hurt the economy. it's going to hurt the state. it's going to hurt the citizens. >> the
right now, if you work at ford, general motors, chrysler on the line, you've got to be part of the uaw, part of the united auto workers. this would not only affect public sector workers like teachers but those private sector workers like auto workers. three bills passed, two in the senate last night, one in the house. the governor, rick schneider, very supportive of this legislation. it's expected to be taken up here again at the state capitol on tuesday. i want you to take a listen to jeff...
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but then the topics on the union, chrysler wanted to fire workers who were spot smoking spot and getting drunk. they were off the clock and came back to work on the assembly line. the arbitration guy said you have to hire them back. fair or unfair? >> i'm trying to get over this. if i got scarred for every time somebody called me fat i'd be nothing but scar tissue. it doesn't bother me. >> kimberly: you like it because i said i like meaty men. >> bob: what is the big deal? he said fat. >> dana: didn't say it to their face. it was on the receipt. >> bob: if you fired everybody out smoking on the lunch break after the country would be out of work. >> eric: may i weigh in? >> dana: yes. >> eric: this is the problem with america we're worried about firing people. business owners if you want fire them because they called someone fat, fire them. guess what? he is not going to get employed until he turns his ways around. fire away. fire that guyer radio d.j. good luck getting more radio d.j.s. turned around and the unions tell you, you can't fire someone for doing something wrong the whole worl
but then the topics on the union, chrysler wanted to fire workers who were spot smoking spot and getting drunk. they were off the clock and came back to work on the assembly line. the arbitration guy said you have to hire them back. fair or unfair? >> i'm trying to get over this. if i got scarred for every time somebody called me fat i'd be nothing but scar tissue. it doesn't bother me. >> kimberly: you like it because i said i like meaty men. >> bob: what is the big deal? he...
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chrysler now twice . we see it in the southern states where the plants are. they were not the ones that went bankrupt in 2008 and 9. it really is a tough choice and i sympathize with the unions. but in the global economy where you compete on wages and other units of production . you can either have high wages with low employment or as obama said spread around the wealth. >> gretchen: michigan is the heart of the labor industry in this nation specifically whether so many cars are made and the unions are powerful there. it is emblematic and we look back on history. this move to make michigan a right to work state will be historic for that reason alone . what needs to be so clear in the discussion, it is really about choice. it is not about tamping down people's rights. it is actually moving them up and saying you now have a choice. you can pay your dues to the union, or you can choose not to pay the dues. >> steve: what happened in michigan is a great thing. because any time the government insists that you have to pay to go in and get a paycheck, that is it a s
chrysler now twice . we see it in the southern states where the plants are. they were not the ones that went bankrupt in 2008 and 9. it really is a tough choice and i sympathize with the unions. but in the global economy where you compete on wages and other units of production . you can either have high wages with low employment or as obama said spread around the wealth. >> gretchen: michigan is the heart of the labor industry in this nation specifically whether so many cars are made and...
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, they also put out a radio ad that said the same thing, and they continued to repeat it even after chrysler and the fact checkers had said it was simply not true. jeep was actually expanding its production in the u.s. the reason it was thinking of building, that it's planning to build a plant in china is to meet the increased demand for jeeps in china, so it was just blatantly false and yet they persisted with it. >> you know what's interesting, too, remember when the chrysler ceo, sergio marchione had to put out a statement basically saying, liar, liar, pants on fire, this is not going to happen. that's never, or more nicely i'm obliged to unambiguously restate our position. jeep production will not be moved from the united states to china. it is inaccurate to suggest anything different. there were strategists who were stunned that this ad, that this was being said, because they thought it was kind of signaled a desperate move. what was the runner-up, what was the next runner-up that could have been picked as the biggest lie? >> well we had ten finalists and i should note that we had a rea
, they also put out a radio ad that said the same thing, and they continued to repeat it even after chrysler and the fact checkers had said it was simply not true. jeep was actually expanding its production in the u.s. the reason it was thinking of building, that it's planning to build a plant in china is to meet the increased demand for jeeps in china, so it was just blatantly false and yet they persisted with it. >> you know what's interesting, too, remember when the chrysler ceo,...
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chrysler said it disagrees with the decision but it wants to move forward. a suspect in texas not letting a little thing like handcuffs. take a look. guy stealing the cop tar while handcuff. see darren douglas porter sneak into the driver's seat after rolling down the rear window which isn't supposed to roll down. cops were talking to one another. and about some store that he allegedly burglarized and 41-year-old abandoned the car a few blocks away. cops are confident they will catch him soon. so he did get away. most viewed youtube video ever and smash hit in the u.s. did the gangnam style rapper once wish death to american soldiers? ♪ gangnam style ♪ >> by the way gangnam is the wealthest area of south korea. back in 2004, rapper psy called for slow and painful death for soldiers in iraq and their families. he has recently apologized and set to perform for the president during a christmas special which tapes tomorrow in washington. an online petition asks that psy be removed from the show but that petition has since been taken down. the president still
chrysler said it disagrees with the decision but it wants to move forward. a suspect in texas not letting a little thing like handcuffs. take a look. guy stealing the cop tar while handcuff. see darren douglas porter sneak into the driver's seat after rolling down the rear window which isn't supposed to roll down. cops were talking to one another. and about some store that he allegedly burglarized and 41-year-old abandoned the car a few blocks away. cops are confident they will catch him soon....
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. >> marine sergeant is starting up his new ride, a 2006 chrysler 300 donated by the recycle rides program. >> i drove home and then i will drive back to san diego sunday. >> he was actually looking for a car and was chose% a data base on needs. >> we chose to help military veterans. >> no one is more deserving of this donated toyota carolla than jordan stevenson. >> i was injured last december. i got shot in the left side of my head. >> jordan was shot in afghanistan. >> they told me i would never walk again, i might not ever talk again and i can stand here and talk to you now. >> he is still working bark from his head injury which paralyzed his body. >> just reenlisted. >> for another six years >> never in a million years did think that would happen. >> i'll get better. i'm going beat it. i'm not going to let them win. >> these are just the first of two cars that this body shop has refurbished. they hope to do it at least once a month. reporting from san francisco, cbs 5. >>> a rare sighting in a berkeley creek has biologist really excited. this 24-inch chinook salmon has been spotted in
. >> marine sergeant is starting up his new ride, a 2006 chrysler 300 donated by the recycle rides program. >> i drove home and then i will drive back to san diego sunday. >> he was actually looking for a car and was chose% a data base on needs. >> we chose to help military veterans. >> no one is more deserving of this donated toyota carolla than jordan stevenson. >> i was injured last december. i got shot in the left side of my head. >> jordan was shot...
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there's no money in the federal till to bail out detroit, especially after we bailed out gm and chrysler already. >> larry, i say let it fail. i'm sorry. you have. to i want those people to have local control. they fought for that local control. they should have a vote. the citizens of the city of detroit should have a vote. but it should fail when it goes wrong. that's what has to happen. the good news is we've now got in michigan as of yesterday we've got legislation pass today make michigan a right to work state. that's going to have a big impact down the road. >> i like that. i like the failure idea. free market capitalism is about success and failure. and as the great free market capitalist nobel prize winner wrote, of the two, doc, sometimes failure teaches us more than success. i like your point very, very much. all right. doc thompson coming out of detroit, thanks very much. >>> now let's talk about the cuts plan for the federal workforce. with the countdown to the fiscal cliff at 24 days, the "washington post" reporting today that federal agencies are sharpening their plans befo
there's no money in the federal till to bail out detroit, especially after we bailed out gm and chrysler already. >> larry, i say let it fail. i'm sorry. you have. to i want those people to have local control. they fought for that local control. they should have a vote. the citizens of the city of detroit should have a vote. but it should fail when it goes wrong. that's what has to happen. the good news is we've now got in michigan as of yesterday we've got legislation pass today make...
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not the chrysler building, you can see in the middle of the picture. i have always been worried about that. it feels like a cross between a needle on a record player or on a syringe. but the building that your uncle is all upset about is the one on the right there. the greenish one with the nice view across the east river. that building is the world headquarters of the united nations. the place where it might sound like they are talking about putting bike racks in city downtowns. but your crazy uncle know what is they really mean is world domination by the antichrist who works at the united nations and is also president obama. there have been far right conspiracy theories about the united nations as long as we have had both the united nations and far right hysterics. but today the far right got loose in the united states senate. it seems to have freaked out even some of the republican party. and that story is next. >>> we will rise. >> today's protest took place this morning. the american public transit association is holding their annual convention. >
not the chrysler building, you can see in the middle of the picture. i have always been worried about that. it feels like a cross between a needle on a record player or on a syringe. but the building that your uncle is all upset about is the one on the right there. the greenish one with the nice view across the east river. that building is the world headquarters of the united nations. the place where it might sound like they are talking about putting bike racks in city downtowns. but your crazy...
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what's happening with chrysler. what's happening with ford. >> yep. >> i mean, these are companies that are fighting back. >> coming back. >> and it is inspiring. >> they need strong unions. >> let's do a town hall meeting. >> let's do it. that was fun. we did that in new jersey on education. let's do it. >> let's go to detroit and we can talk about this, also how to revive detroit. >> michigan, you did a show for the big detroit regional chamber of commerce. >> look forward to that. >> we're all going to be there. >> in vermont, you don't need, because of the icy conditions there, a ford raptor, do you? >> oh, you need a raptor. >> i have a hybrid escape. >> raptor's a lot like the escape. >> except it has horrific gas mileage. the raptor. >> oh, the raptor. >> four miles to the gallon. >> escape gets good mileage. >> 31 in the summertime. it's fantastic. >> impressive. >>> still ahead, political analyst richard wolffe. also the president of the university of pennsylvania and author amy guttmann explains why the pe
what's happening with chrysler. what's happening with ford. >> yep. >> i mean, these are companies that are fighting back. >> coming back. >> and it is inspiring. >> they need strong unions. >> let's do a town hall meeting. >> let's do it. that was fun. we did that in new jersey on education. let's do it. >> let's go to detroit and we can talk about this, also how to revive detroit. >> michigan, you did a show for the big detroit regional...
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only would apply to public sector workers, it would apply to those workers that worked for ford, gm, chrysler, all of the unions here. so protesters here are storming through the halls of this state capital in lansing yesterday. i want you to take a listen to what one protester said. >> it terrifies me they are trying to pass this through with no discussion from the other side. no understanding of what's important in it. >> reporter: the union members that were protesting chanting things like "union busting is disgusting." it did not go through public debate, but the republican mayor here insists that this is beneficial for the workers. here's his take. >> to give freedom of choice to our workplace and that legislators move promptly and efficiently in moving it through the legislature and when it arrives on my desk, i plan on signing it. >>. the data shows it's right to work for less. it's an effort by the wealthy, by people like the right wing that they want to push workers wages and benefits down. >> reporter: that coming from the head of the united auto workers here. a labor lawyer i spoke
only would apply to public sector workers, it would apply to those workers that worked for ford, gm, chrysler, all of the unions here. so protesters here are storming through the halls of this state capital in lansing yesterday. i want you to take a listen to what one protester said. >> it terrifies me they are trying to pass this through with no discussion from the other side. no understanding of what's important in it. >> reporter: the union members that were protesting chanting...
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melissa: can you imagine you buy the fuel and put it among the manufacturers, chrysler, gm, toyota, especially in older vehicles and look at your manufacturers website if you're in this group, what happens with the e15 the fuel separates and ethanol in there is highly corrosive to your engine. is this new information? did we know this before? >> well, no, we've told the regulators about this we spent millions of dollars in research to try to understand that dynamic. in fact let me reiterate. in the oil and gas business we support biofuels. we're major investors and producers of biofuels but we don't think you should force more biofuels to be mixed with regular gasoline until you know its impact. other research shows it puts five million american cars that are already on the street at risk where it could have some engine damage. we think you need to look at all these other issues that are now starting to come to the surface, but regulators, the administration just moved forward mandating the fuel. melissa: what does it mean to have aaa coming in and putting out a warning, saying don't use it, a
melissa: can you imagine you buy the fuel and put it among the manufacturers, chrysler, gm, toyota, especially in older vehicles and look at your manufacturers website if you're in this group, what happens with the e15 the fuel separates and ethanol in there is highly corrosive to your engine. is this new information? did we know this before? >> well, no, we've told the regulators about this we spent millions of dollars in research to try to understand that dynamic. in fact let me...
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chrysler isn't even an american company anymore, it's owned by the italians. it has been a colossal disaster, and it's going to continue to be. the unions with their work rules and exceptions and restrictions on workers -- not so much the paycheck. most of the three big japanese makers in the south that are not dominated by unions do not have those work rules, but they pay about the same dollars per hour in many wages. so the wages can be paid, it's the crazy union work rules and defending people who drink on on the job, for example, that cause problems that are running american business out of the country. alisyn: all right. lars larson, leslie marshall, kudos for being able to debate over the cacophony coming out of lansing. >> hey, we didn't have any beeps. >> kick those union thugs out. alisyn: thank you so much. >>> meanwhile, a popular u.s. retailer now under fire for including a series of profanity-laced items in its annual christmas catalog. why they did it. >>> plus, a 6-year-old girl near death from leukemia making a miraculous recovery. up next we'l
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it would affect private workers, but also auto workers at ford, general motors and chrysler. this is very big. it does exclude police and firefighters. but this was passed very quickly. this did not go through a committee. it didn't go through public debate. so democrats are calling this a subversion of the legislative process. i want you to take a listen to the auto workers president who was here protesting yesterday and also the governor rick snider. >> to give freedom of choice to our workplace and the legislators prove properly and efficiently and when it arrives on my desk, i plan on signing it. >>. the data and facts from the right to work states show it's right to work for less. it's an effort by the wealthy, by people from the right wing that they want to push wages and benefits down. >> the argument is that it makes the state more competitive and it's going to lead to more jobs, right? >> reporter: right. when you look at the data, what we know is that union workers tepid to make more. pretty significantly more than nonunion workers. a median salary for a union worke
it would affect private workers, but also auto workers at ford, general motors and chrysler. this is very big. it does exclude police and firefighters. but this was passed very quickly. this did not go through a committee. it didn't go through public debate. so democrats are calling this a subversion of the legislative process. i want you to take a listen to the auto workers president who was here protesting yesterday and also the governor rick snider. >> to give freedom of choice to our...
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if you had gm stock or chrysler before the bailout your stock value went to zero. 92 and gm was declared bankrupt. stock holder didn't appeared and in the court stock hold ares got a real hair cut. the union won and the bond holders lost. it is it a title myth the idea that unions saved detroit. >> brian: what about the union workers who say those who are not in the union are free rider will benefit from their bargaining power with the car companies, for example. >> look the right to work is enshrined in michigan and right not to have to pay union duce is ensidelined and that is it a good thing. >> gretchen: to me, it is it the most important state that this has happened in because the autoindustry is such a hunal part of the economy there and the union is so strong there. do you agree with that? >> absolutely it is the home of the autoindustry union and the idea that michigan should revert to being a right to work state, that is it a revolution in the labor market. >> steve: we heard in the run up to the election, while the gm autoworkers wound up keeping their pensions and benefits, it
if you had gm stock or chrysler before the bailout your stock value went to zero. 92 and gm was declared bankrupt. stock holder didn't appeared and in the court stock hold ares got a real hair cut. the union won and the bond holders lost. it is it a title myth the idea that unions saved detroit. >> brian: what about the union workers who say those who are not in the union are free rider will benefit from their bargaining power with the car companies, for example. >> look the right...
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without federal money, chrysler and gm would have gone bust. >> the liquidity. like aig -- >> exactly. let me finish. you talk about it's all wasted. that's not true. that's not true. some of it is well spent. and i think you should answer your question. sandy, not named after me, had a major impact on the east coast. there's been a request for help from the federal government. i'm all in favor of accountability. >> but did you have accountability with katrina? i don't think so. it's your constituents that are paying for the wasteful money. if you're coming here telling your constituents, you really don't -- >> no, look, i'm saying, i'm in favor of accountability. >> the congressman from new jersey needs to speak up for the state. >> i'm in favor of accountability. let me finish. after accountability is built in, will you vote yes or no? >> i will be supportive of slaks once we have the accountability in place. >> good. >> work with me on the accountability, fantastic. >> absolutely. i'll make sure the people in new jersey and new york are not left high and driv
without federal money, chrysler and gm would have gone bust. >> the liquidity. like aig -- >> exactly. let me finish. you talk about it's all wasted. that's not true. that's not true. some of it is well spent. and i think you should answer your question. sandy, not named after me, had a major impact on the east coast. there's been a request for help from the federal government. i'm all in favor of accountability. >> but did you have accountability with katrina? i don't think...